Andon Labs Inc., safe autonomous organizations without humans in the loop, San Francisco, California, USA

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Website - andonlabs.com
andonlabs.ai

youtube.com/@AndonLabs

x.com/andonlabs

linkedin.com/company/andonlabs

Co-founder and CEO - Lukas Petersson

Co-founder and CTO - Axel Backlund

Co-founder - Emil Fröberg

Products and projects:

Project Vend, automated store

 

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What happens when your boss is AI

Apr 30, 2026

Humans working for AI is closer than you think

Alex and Ellis sit down with Andon Labs co-founder Lukas Petersson to talk about what it looks like when AI moves out of the chat window and into the real world. They discuss AI-run stores and vending machines, why people behave differently when interacting with AI, and what happens when machines start managing businesses on their own. They also get into the idea of humans working for AI, whether all software is about to disappear, and how close we really are to that shift.

Chapters:
00:00 Clankers cold open
01:12 WiFi vs AGI reality
02:51 Meet Andon Labs co-founder Lukas Petersson
03:42 AI runs a real store
07:24 Why people treat AI differently
09:33 From safety research to real-world AI
17:44 What happens when AI is your boss
22:52 The end of traditional software
35:45 How AI models are actually behaving
42:26 The limits of AI safety thinking
46:46 Living like AGI is near
56:32 Can AI be manipulated
59:40 Alex & Ellis react and wrap up